P2765 Input/Turbine Speed Sensor “B” Circuit
OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description
Input/Turbine Speed Sensor "A" Circuit
What does that mean?
This diagnostic trouble code (DTC) is a generic powertrain code, which means that it applies to all 1996-newer vehicles (Ford, Honda, Mazda, Mercedes, VW, etc.).
Although generic, the specific repair steps may vary depending on make/model.
When I have encountered a diagnostic trouble code P2765, it has been due to the powertrain control module (PCM) detecting a malfunction in the circuit for the designated input (or turbine) speed sensor known as "B". Input and turbine speed sensors are virtually identical in design. The difference is primarily with the descriptive terminology. The A designation is typically reserved for OBD-II equipped vehicles that use multiple input or turbine speed sensors. Consult the manufacturer’s service manual for the location of the input/turbine sensor designated A.
The input/turbine speed sensor is usually an electromagnetic, 3-wire sensor used to monitor transmission input speed (recognized by the PCM as revolutions per minute or RPMs). The sensor is positioned near the rear of the torque converter (at the transmission input shaft) and is either mounted with a bolt/stud or threaded directly into the transmission case.
On the transmission main (or input) shaft, specially designed grooves (or a notched reluctor wheel) are present. The input shaft (or reluctor wheel) passes in close proximity to the end of the sensor; completing the electromagnetic circuit. As the grooves (or notches) pass by the sensor, the circuit is interrupted and an electronic pattern is formed. This pattern formation is received by the PCM as a waveform pattern that it further interprets as transmission input/turbine speed.
Transmission input/turbine speed is compared with engine RPM speed, percentage of engine load, transmission output speed, and vehicle speed to determine the desired input speed RPM. If the actual input/turbine speed fails to coincide with the desired input/turbine speed, a code will be stored and a malfunction lamp may be illuminated.
Symptoms & Severity
In some instances, this code being stored will prompt the PCM to place the transmission in ‘limp-in’ mode. In this mode, the transmission will shift harshly. If you are presented with a P2765 and the transmission begins to shift irregularly, the problem must be addressed as soon as possible.
Symptoms of a P2765 code may include:
Causes
Potential causes for this code to set are:
Diagnostic and Repair Procedures
A good starting point is always to check for technical service bulletins (TSB) for your particular vehicle. Your issue may be a known issue with a known fix put out by the manufacturer and can save you time and money during diagnosis.
A suitable diagnostic scanner, a digital volt/ohmmeter (DVOM), a system wiring diagram, and possibly an oscilloscope will be helpful in diagnosing the P2765 code.
Skilled technicians usually begin with a visual inspection of system wiring and connectors. Repair or replace disconnected, corroded, burnt, or shorted parts as needed. Test the battery and inspect battery cables and cable ends. Remove corrosion and secure battery terminals as required.
Connect the scanner to the diagnostic port and retrieve all stored codes. Make a note of al stored codes for future reference. I also like to note freeze frame data, if available.
If both input sensor and output sensor codes are present, use the scanner data stream to determine which circuit is malfunctioning. Narrow the data stream to include only related data for more responsive data delivery.
When removing sensors, check for excessive metal debris on magnetic contacts. Remove excessive debris before reinstallation. When sensors are removed, inspect interruption grooves and/or reluctor wheel notches. Test individual sensors using the DVOM and following manufacturer’s specifications (found in the service manual or through All Data). Replace sensors that fail to comply with specs.
Disconnect related controllers before testing resistance and continuity with the DVOM. Failure to do so could cause controller damage. Test system circuits for shorted or open wiring. Repair or replace defective circuits. If all system circuits and sensors are in proper working order, suspect a faulty PCM or a PCM programming error.
Additional diagnostic notes:
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"Delete Error Code Permanently, Disable DTC Error Code Function for p2765 in the ECU"
In extreme cases, we even have the option to permanently remove the specific DTC p2765 and disable the function of the specific error code in the ECU. All other fault code functions will then continue to work to protect the engine. This is different from clearing an error code with a diagnostic device. We have the option to permanently remove the function of the specific error code, so that it never comes back. Also emergency running that occurs on the specific error code can be solved in most cases.
Of course we prefer to first try to solve the cause of the error code, but sometimes the only solution is to permanently disable the DTC function of p2765.
